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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime6 days ago edited
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    Heads up: I will never again "attempt" to use endlesstickets.com

    Quick story: I wanted to buy two tickets to the lions vs cowboys game in December. I look at their website, purchase two tickets, printed the receipt. 20 mins later I get a call and an email telling me the tickets were not priced correctly and that I can now purchase them from $100 more than before. Oh, and they offered a 5% discount for my inconvenience.

    I repeated emailed them back saying that I will not pay more than the listed price of which i have a receipt for, and that it's their fault. Especially considering this comes right from their "policy" page, "Orders. All sales are final. Since tickets are a one-of-a-kind item and not replaceable, there are no refunds, exchanges or cancellations." No returned emails until 5 days later after I started getting a little heated about it.

    Their president Matthew Spence (email matt@endlesstickets.com ) ended up telling me NO repeatedly and that it isn't their fault blah blah blah. They can't buy the tickets that cheap and lose money reselling them to me because of their mistake.

    And then I get this email from him a few minutes ago after I ask him to send me the tickets for the paid for price and resolve his issue internally versus stiffing a customer:

    "It does not work that way. Quit wasting my time and yours. We do not need your business."

    Customer service appears to be a waste of both our times. NICE business practice

    So I politely sent back

    "What does not work that way? Your terrible customer service? I'll agree. And as a business owner myself, you probably shouldn't tell anyone that you don't need their business. Because from the sounds of you not being able to cover a $100 mistake you made, you sure do need any business you can get.

    Best of luck and happy karma to you,

    Adam

    ps - I'll be sure to link you to some of my blogs and posts about how to never use your website. Good day, and have fun mispricing more tickets!"

    Lesson: I'll never use them ever for anything. Stick to ticketmaster, livenation, or stub hub. Luckily they never charged my card otherwise I'd be driving to Arkansas.

    Feel free to email matt@endlesstickets.com and let him know that you too think he might just be the DBOTW.

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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTime6 days ago
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    Wow - that sounds terrible! What an idiot to say something like that - and you have this in an E-mail?!

    Proud founder of YGG
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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime6 days ago
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    Yep. Here's the chronological order of it all, sans the first few emails of basically nothing:

    First email back from EndlessTickets President (Matt) -

    "Adam,

    You obviously don’t understand that we are brokers. We must buy the tickets when you submit an order. If we are unable to buy them then we cannot fill the order. This happens 5% of the time. This is the same with all ticket brokerages. I saw how you compared us to ticketmaster. We are not the same as ticketmaster. We are secondary market sellers not primary sellers. We deal with one of a kind items whose availability can change at any time. That is the nature of our business. Your card was never charged and your order was never confirmed. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. We simply are not in a position to correct other peoples mistakes. We would love to sell you the tickets if we could get them but we are unable to purchase them therefore we can only offer what other brokers offer us. I hope you understand the situation we are in."

    My response
    "Matt, I understand that you are brokers. And I understand that since you mis-marked the tickets, instead of correcting it on your end, I simply don't get tickets. Now my plans for that game are in the air and I'll have to buy some tickets since travel and stay has already been arranged. If you want my business then correct the situation. I have a BA in Marketing and a BA in Management I know that from experience a business should stand by their policies and correct mistakes if they want to stay in business and get repeat customers. Remember that finding new customers is far more expensive than retaining current customers.

    I do realize that the exact tickets I've ordered may no longer be available for the Lions Cowboys game. I'll gladly pay my full $61.88 for any two lower bowl tickets to the game. If this cannot be done on your part, and yes I realize that you may lose money but you will avoid a negative reputation, I'll simply go elsewhere and avoid your business.

    Good day,
    Adam"

    Matt's Response
    "We did not misprice the tickets. The other brokers did. We do our best to fill the orders but when they can’t be filled we cannot honor a price that we did not put out there. We do our best and we will break even or even lose a little but we can’t go deep into the whole on another brokers pricing mistake. That makes now since for us."


    It's me again

    "Whomever is at fault for the pricing was should fix the problem. If not, i'll make sure everyone i know never stops by endless tickets. You can fix it by charging my card, sending me two lower bowl tickets. After that you can fix the problem with your broker. Ask them for the difference since it is most likely their fault. I should have already had these tickets in my possession by now."

    His final response:

    "It does not work that way. Quit wasting my time and yours. We do not need your business."

    And then me

    "What does not work that way? Your terrible customer service? I'll agree. And as a business owner myself, you probably shouldn't tell anyone that you don't need their business. Because from the sounds of you not being able to cover a $100 mistake you made, you sure do need any business you can get.

    Best of luck and happy karma to you,

    Adam

    ps - I'll be sure to link you to some of my blogs and posts about how to never use your website. Good day, and have fun mispricing more tickets!"

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime6 days ago
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    Feel free to email this Matt guy at matt@endlesstickets.com , again he IS the president of this company telling me this crap. Maybe if we can get some more ppl to email him directly to tell him they will never shop there unless I get my tickets, he'll wise up. Doubtful, but possible.

    I'm gonna hit up the consumerist website soon with this.

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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTime6 days ago
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    Maybe we should air this out on YGG - perhaps Consumerist will pick it up too.

    Proud founder of YGG
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      CommentAuthorKMulligan
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    That's hilarious. I would definitely get this on consumerist. I just sent him an e-mail.

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    Please get that on Consumerist...well deserved

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    Yeah I'm gonna email Ben at Consumerist today. Hopefully I can get the story on there.

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    KMulligan - what did you end up emailing him?

    Also, I just sent the story in to Consumerist

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      CommentAuthorKMulligan
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    Here's what I put:

    Matt,
    You have lost a golden opportunity to completely satisfy a customer. This is in regards to selling two tickets to a Lions/Cowboys game, then coming back and saying you need to charge the customer an additional $100. There was a mistake on your end, somewhere, yet your refuse to admit it. Your best option in this case would have been to honor the price, explain the situation, and eat the loss. You have not chosen to do that, and in the internet era (Consumerist.com, anyone?) you simply cannot survive by telling customers you do not need their business. Get off your throne, or pretty soon you may find you don't have any business. It is less expensive to sell to a customer that comes back, then going out and having to find a new customer.

    Good luck in the future.

    Regards,
    Kevin

    Followed by your summary of what happened. Tried not to come off as a d!ck.

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    Well done KMulligan, thank you.

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime5 days ago
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    Not sure if you guys/gals will be able to view the threads unless you're a member but I've got threads about this on

    Jeepforum
    Xceedspeed
    footballguys

    and here right now

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    • CommentAuthorAudarius
    • CommentTime4 days ago
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    Oh hey, wait a sec. You guys are complaining to the wrong people.

    That website is a member of BBB.

    http://www.bbbonline.org/cks.asp?id=1070130145335280

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      CommentAuthorSSM
    • CommentTime4 days ago edited
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    Yeah I've been tipped off that he's on the BBB...I mentioned that in an email to him and he got a lot less, "I dont need your business," and explained how this happened. We're currently trying to work something out for the inconvenience...which means I'm declining the 5% off coupon towards the $140 purchase

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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTime3 days ago
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    I'm late on this, but man, what a shame.

    Let me know whether or not he delivers. If he stays on the un-professional route, maybe we will write this up on the blog, along with sending it to the BBB, etc...

    Proud Partner of YGG
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      CommentAuthorJustin
    • CommentTime2 days ago
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    Especially in a customer service oriented industry, he fails completely.

    If you quote a price then you have to stand by it. I know in retail stores there are consumer laws that protect the customer. I wonder if there is anything online.

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