Comments on: Clinton’s plan to over-populate the U.S. http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us A blog and forum community for helping entrepreneurs young at heart better their small businesses. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:16:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Michelle http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13977 Michelle Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:12:24 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13977 Really? another ugly/ crazy photo of Hillary Clinton? Jeebus. Really? another ugly/ crazy photo of Hillary Clinton? Jeebus.

]]> By: Jack http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13739 Jack Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:42:25 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13739 This has been implemented in Australia and has begun to turn around the declining birth rate which is affecting most of the western world. In fact the OECD mentioned that Australia is the only western nation to have an increasing birth rate. Our western economies need to pick up the birth rate otherwise we will feel the full effects of an ageing population; poverty will increase due to the fact that the likes of social security will not be able to afford to pay pensions to such a large proportion of the population. I have come across reports that the U.S Social Security system is already suffering and is not too far from hitting the red. Need I say that controls are needed for those who are simply chasing money as the welfare of the children is of the essence. It is absolutely essential that western nations like the U.S, Canada, Australia and the EU increase their birth rates other wise the consequences could be detrimental to the wealth and stabillity of the world. This has been implemented in Australia and has begun to turn around the declining birth rate which is affecting most of the western world. In fact the OECD mentioned that Australia is the only western nation to have an increasing birth rate. Our western economies need to pick up the birth rate otherwise we will feel the full effects of an ageing population; poverty will increase due to the fact that the likes of social security will not be able to afford to pay pensions to such a large proportion of the population. I have come across reports that the U.S Social Security system is already suffering and is not too far from hitting the red. Need I say that controls are needed for those who are simply chasing money as the welfare of the children is of the essence. It is absolutely essential that western nations like the U.S, Canada, Australia and the EU increase their birth rates other wise the consequences could be detrimental to the wealth and stabillity of the world.

]]> By: Satish http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13289 Satish Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:38:09 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13289 Yay more kids for everyone! Yay more kids for everyone!

]]> By: Eric http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13219 Eric Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:13:58 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13219 @elysa - Bingo. It's much deeper than it seems which ties into Audarius comment... @Audarius - Double bingo. Typical Clinton rhetoric and it's only going to get more unbearable as the election approaches. Everything that comes out of her mouth is deliberately used and strategically timed to aid her and her campaign, nothing more, nothing less. @Ben - Your "take my ball and go home" attitude regarding our RSS feed is just plain 'ol silly :) @elysa – Bingo. It’s much deeper than it seems which ties into Audarius comment…

@Audarius – Double bingo. Typical Clinton rhetoric and it’s only going to get more unbearable as the election approaches. Everything that comes out of her mouth is deliberately used and strategically timed to aid her and her campaign, nothing more, nothing less.

@Ben – Your “take my ball and go home” attitude regarding our RSS feed is just plain ‘ol silly :)

]]> By: elysa http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13218 elysa Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:54:23 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13218 Carl makes a very valid point our country is already is so much debt, you also would have to add in the salaries of the people that would have to be hired to implement such a huge project. Eric I love your comment about if you can't handle opinions read the newspaper. I don't think this plan sets any steps to get people into the tradition of savings it sets a precedent of handouts. Carl makes a very valid point our country is already is so much debt, you also would have to add in the salaries of the people that would have to be hired to implement such a huge project.

Eric I love your comment about if you can’t handle opinions read the newspaper.

I don’t think this plan sets any steps to get people into the tradition of savings it sets a precedent of handouts.

]]> By: rtk http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13206 rtk Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:42:53 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13206 To L.M.J. : My wife is an inner city school teacher, and your belief that poor kids in the U.S. don't have access to healthcare is a joke! ALL of the poor kids in her class are covered...hospitals do not turn away people. Plus, if parents actually give a damn, they have access to free immunizations, check-ups, etc. The "it's for the kids" motto is so old...and so untrue. To L.M.J. : My wife is an inner city school teacher, and your belief that poor kids in the U.S. don’t have access to healthcare is a joke! ALL of the poor kids in her class are covered…hospitals do not turn away people. Plus, if parents actually give a damn, they have access to free immunizations, check-ups, etc.

The “it’s for the kids” motto is so old…and so untrue.

]]> By: Jam http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13186 Jam Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:36:44 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13186 I agree with Mat, our system is working well for us, the baby bonus does its job... America should be more like Australia... :) I agree with Mat, our system is working well for us, the baby bonus does its job…
America should be more like Australia… :)

]]> By: Audarius http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13181 Audarius Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:59:39 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13181 Not only is Clinton's socialistic idea unconstitutional, it is also too idealistic. Clinton is playing with people's emotions whilst at the same time making the evil Republicans look more evil by opposing giving money to babies. The people who will defend this will defend it exclusively on a emotional basis, not on rationality, which I'm assuming is Clinton's primary goal. This for me only makes Clinton look more like a two-faced witch. I have no problem having this idea be applied to State government. I only highly oppose it being applied to the Fed. Not only is Clinton’s socialistic idea unconstitutional, it is also too idealistic. Clinton is playing with people’s emotions whilst at the same time making the evil Republicans look more evil by opposing giving money to babies. The people who will defend this will defend it exclusively on a emotional basis, not on rationality, which I’m assuming is Clinton’s primary goal. This for me only makes Clinton look more like a two-faced witch.

I have no problem having this idea be applied to State government. I only highly oppose it being applied to the Fed.

]]> By: Ben http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13167 Ben Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:01:21 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13167 @Eric Your comment to LMJ, about people getting $5000 for having a child. That's not how this plan works. The child gets $5000, not the parent. The foster home issue is a red herring. As for not being able to handle opinions, I used to read YGG because it had good S:N about a topic I cared about. Its value has waned lately, and this was just the last nail in the coffin for my removal of YGG from my feeds. @Amy I obviously stuck around to finish this discussion. But reading and talking about views that are different from my own will make me smarter if there is an intelligent discussion. This post and the ensuing discussion are so filled with vitriolic fervor that there is realistically nothing to be learned except intolerance and anger. I'm sure that, with the label of 'douche bag' (which you support) is meant to encourage intellectual discussion. Don't hold other people to a standard to which you do not hold yourself. @Christian We need the -right- government programs, and we need them to be properly implemented. Maybe that's less, maybe that's more... maybe that's exactly what we've got, we just have to fix them. @All We can look at this constructively and try to learn what's good about this idea -- the underlying principle of caring for our children and our community is a positive thing (I hope that that won't be debated). Maybe this is the wrong way to go about it. How can we fix the problems that Hillary is trying to address? Are they even the right problems? @Eric
Your comment to LMJ, about people getting $5000 for having a child. That’s not how this plan works. The child gets $5000, not the parent. The foster home issue is a red herring.

As for not being able to handle opinions, I used to read YGG because it had good S:N about a topic I cared about. Its value has waned lately, and this was just the last nail in the coffin for my removal of YGG from my feeds.

@Amy
I obviously stuck around to finish this discussion. But reading and talking about views that are different from my own will make me smarter if there is an intelligent discussion. This post and the ensuing discussion are so filled with vitriolic fervor that there is realistically nothing to be learned except intolerance and anger.

I’m sure that, with the label of ‘douche bag’ (which you support) is meant to encourage intellectual discussion. Don’t hold other people to a standard to which you do not hold yourself.

@Christian
We need the -right- government programs, and we need them to be properly implemented. Maybe that’s less, maybe that’s more… maybe that’s exactly what we’ve got, we just have to fix them.

@All
We can look at this constructively and try to learn what’s good about this idea — the underlying principle of caring for our children and our community is a positive thing (I hope that that won’t be debated). Maybe this is the wrong way to go about it. How can we fix the problems that Hillary is trying to address? Are they even the right problems?

]]> By: Amy http://www.younggogetter.com/entrepreneur/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-13157 Amy Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:19:20 +0000 http://www.younggogetter.com/2007/10/09/clintons-plan-to-over-populate-the-us/#comment-13157 *Snaps* to you Eric for putting something out there that sparks such conversation! Also, kudos for the duche bag graphics. Coming from the city where a woman brutally murdered her mentally handicapped foster child and continued collecting checks for a month before she was arrested, I'm going to go ahead and say that this is a TERRIBLE IDEA. File this in the same drawer with Hilary's original "health plan" when she was last in the White House. Yikes! As for Ben and LMJ, reading and talking about people's views that are different from your own only makes you smarter. Since you won't be reading this anymore because your views weren't the same, I guess we're only left with one conclusion... *Snaps* to you Eric for putting something out there that sparks such conversation! Also, kudos for the duche bag graphics.
Coming from the city where a woman brutally murdered her mentally handicapped foster child and continued collecting checks for a month before she was arrested, I’m going to go ahead and say that this is a TERRIBLE IDEA. File this in the same drawer with Hilary’s original “health plan” when she was last in the White House. Yikes!
As for Ben and LMJ, reading and talking about people’s views that are different from your own only makes you smarter. Since you won’t be reading this anymore because your views weren’t the same, I guess we’re only left with one conclusion…

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